A Flock of Hummingbirds: On the Search for the LibreOffice Mascot
tl;dr: Please vote on the LibreOffice Mascot until Oct/08th at https://survey.documentfoundation.org/665628 (survey expired)
Additional to the unique branding of LibreOffice today, we want to introduce an alternative to TDF’s trademarked logo/icon elements that can be used by the community with minimal restrictions. And as an open source project we involve the community in the process and asked for design proposals. The response was overwhelming; we got a great number of submissions ranging from aquarelle paintings to elaborated rebranding strategies. You are amazing!
The mascot should be used as a local community logo without TDF brand inside. It needs to be a cute and adaptable for various purpose. So the input was filtered based on
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Big thanks to all contributors, and sorry if your proposal has not made it into the next round.
The remaining 63 images were equalized for a fair voting. That means all submissions are sized equally, got a white background (if possible), in case of various poses one was selected, and textual distractions have been removed.
Now it’s time to vote. The images are presented in a randomized order, and your task is to either press the left thumb-up button when you like a design or the right thumb-down if you don’t want it as our mascot.
https://survey.documentfoundation.org/665628
After this voting phase we will do a final election. The seven proposals with the highest agreement in the voting will get it into the selection, at this step done by the members of The Document Foundation. Would you like to become a member?
PS: Voting phase will end this Sunday, Oct/08th.
1) I ‘m missing a thumbnail overvieuw to compare and select
2) I proceeded to 42% and no image till then did me say Yes
3) The green color palette is fine with me!
Since I learned that LaTex logo has a very beautiful hummingbird (https://www.latex-project.org/) I was surprised by the other potential choices of octopus, owl and castor. I liked very much in order very to least, the above:
https://survey.documentfoundation.org/upload/surveys/665628/images/20170831_RizkyDjatiMunggaran_Berang(1).png
https://survey.documentfoundation.org/upload/surveys/665628/images/20170826_Raycheva_Olly.jpg
https://survey.documentfoundation.org/upload/surveys/665628/images/30_08_2017_ryanslaven_hummingbird.png
https://survey.documentfoundation.org/upload/surveys/665628/images/20170630_kyledawney_seamusseptopus.png
https://survey.documentfoundation.org/upload/surveys/665628/images/owlopenoffice.png
I hope for the castor or octopus. How my taste change since the first survey.
With all love and much respect
A friend who adores LibreOffice and FLOSS.
The idea behind to not show an overview and allow to pick one out of many is a fair voting. With the randomization you don’t need to answer everything, downvotes are counted as well, and last but not least it’s fully anonymized. In the next phase you will get an overview.
HI, just voted, but this one: clear distinction to the TDF logo, was not there in the survey. Is it out? I like it a lot!
Heiko, if you go to the elections, you also compares political parties and their representants, dont you? I mean, if there would have been an overview, I would vote other way.
Dear, as soon as they started the contest, I asked if the mascot could be designed on paper:
Alan:
“Can do in paper and afterwards scan it?
Thank you”
Answer:
The LibreOffice Design Team:
“Sure, no limitation to your creativity.”
(Second comment of this link: https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/06/28/competition-libreoffice-mascot/ )
I told my girlfriend about the matter and she sent the following proposals:
https://imgur.com/a/zAOkQ
https://imgur.com/a/5DSks
https://imgur.com/a/SqGCQ
https://imgur.com/a/GEHSr
https://imgur.com/a/xk68Q
None of them are available to vote. It is understandable, there are as many great proposals as the plagiarism to Firefox with an otter, the beautiful … terrifying orange ball and other drawings that I do not know how to describe (because I do not know what demons they are), that there would be no room for other competitors.
However, I have noticed that ALL proposals were made with computer tools. If so, my girlfriend’s drawings were not disqualified for being ugly or not identifying LibreOffice, but for being handmade.
If they were only interested in having digital drawings, they would have told me when I asked, so I did not waste anyone’s time.
Luck for the rest of the contestants (except for the terrifying orange ball, that’s horrible).
Dear, as soon as they started the contest, I asked if the mascot could be designed on paper:
Alan:
“Can do in paper and afterwards scan it?
Thank you”
Answer:
The LibreOffice Design Team:
“Sure, no limitation to your creativity.”
(Second comment of this link: https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/06/28/competition-libreoffice-mascot/ )
I told my girlfriend about the matter and she sent the following proposals:
https://imgur.com/a/zAOkQ
https://imgur.com/a/5DSks
https://imgur.com/a/SqGCQ
https://imgur.com/a/GEHSr
https://imgur.com/a/xk68Q
None of them are available to vote. It is understandable, there are as many great proposals as the plagiarism to Firefox with an otter, the beautiful … terrifying orange ball and other drawings that I do not know how to describe (because I do not know what demons they are), that there would be no room for other competitors.
However, I have noticed that ALL proposals were made with computer tools. If so, my girlfriend’s drawings were not disqualified for being ugly or not identifying LibreOffice, but for being handmade.
If they were only interested in having digital drawings, they would have told me when I asked, so I did not waste anyone’s time.
Luck for the rest of the contestants (except for the terrifying orange ball, that’s horrible).
I have not been voted even using computer for my proposal.
https://twitter.com/n3storm/status/913419377919299586
There is no way to find any justification or reasoning behind what designs reached final stage for voting.
Hope that makes you and girlfriend feel better.
Hi Nestor. Because you used TDF logo, my proposal wasn’t because I also used it. See my proposal as example in first topic. I used logo as eyes of the mascot.
My proposal https://www.facebook.com/ComoViverSemPhotoshop/photos/a.1416571638560434.1073741829.1416370395247225/1878993218984938/?type=3&theater
That is a beautiful logo, I am sad that I did not get to vote for it.
Is there a galery of the survey? I would like to see the images one more time. There was some very good image: The creature looked like as the Devil of Tasmania or something like that.
I got to ask, are you fine with one of the artists asking his followers on Tumblr and Twitter to vote on his design if they like it? I’m asking because on his Twitter alone, he has about 7100 followers, and that might ended up distorting the survey greatly into his favor.
Wouldn’t be easy for the 7k followers as the sequence is randomized and no text shows the author. We put more effort in this fairness idea than many others. There is, for example, no overview in this phase, as asked for by Antonin.
Heiko, although the proposals are randomly shown if the artist shows his drawing to his followers they will know by whom to vote
https://twitter.com/tysontanx?lang=en
He is a cheater
Please no accusations without proof. I know Tyson as an honorable designer of Kiki and Konqi. If you tell me to keep an eye on the final numbers, okay. I always do sanity checks for raw data from any provenance.
I see that will not win the most representative pet, but the most cheating or the one with has more friends within LO, and apparently Tyson Tan meets all the requirements. Right, Heiko? Or should I call you “the Tyson’s friend”?
What I do not understand is how that submission made it past your screening process in the first place.
Look again. It is not very mascotable by your own rules (many details with all the edges and shadows), also because it is not very distinctive from other logos (you yourself brought up Kiki, to which this bears more than a fleeting similarity)
You want to anonymise the selection process for users, but did not do so during your own screening? You know exactly who that artist is, and are obviously biased (“honorable”) towards him.
How is that not a problem for you?
And what for the love of Bernoulli is a “sanity check” for personal preference?
So, someone clicks through your list and likes only one design. And you go kick them out? For what? A peculiar taste?
I would love to know exactly by what methods any selection here was and will be done, because to me as a statistician in social sciences, this all sounds like a purely arbitrary process of eliminating unwelcome opinions, in this particular context.
@TomQuartz It’s not rocket science what we do and there are no exact statistics and methods defined ad-hoc. What I was thinking about is to look for patterns, something like only one submission is upvoted repeatedly. As you said, this wouldn’t be a good approach. While this pattern _was_ visible at a certain time such a sanity check isn’t perfectly clear, meaning the ~100 upvoters also agreed with a few other. So maybe those people just like the idea (think about cultural differences).
Actually we never forbid to advertise the own work, and it sounds strange if we’d do so.
In the end everything depends on the numbers of participants and that’s why I write in past tense. Meanwhile we have 25k participants and any try to cheat is just noise.
Dear Heiko,
Tyson has himself 7300 followers on Twitter. That would make up just under a quarter of your votes.
Add in to that 4000 views of that very submission on DeviantArt.
On Tumblr, he received 2100 comments on the picture. Heaven knows how many people saw it and upvoted him for that.
We have no means of telling how many of these people are identical, so there are between 4000 and 13000 people who received a link to the vote through him alone.
What is the idea of an anonymisation if you allow participants to post their work elsewhere?
“Noise”? I think there is a huge bias at work here. Tyson has the ability to reach far more people than for instance my daughter, who has some 20 friends. How is allowing people to advertise their work in any way fair?
Why would it be strange to tell them they will be disqualified if they publish their work before the publication of the results? Other competitions do that a lot.
So, forgive me for my utter confusion. I think you should, for the future, consult the community on rules BEFORE opening submissions, to avoid further confusion and grievances.
As for “rocket science”. No, it is social science. I do it for a living, as a consultant for market researchers. And they all originally have approaches like you:
Promising “sanity checks”, which are not something done in social sciences by that name to begin with , then admitting to not doing them at all, but just having thought about it.
And what remains in the end is inactivity instead of the only rational thing:
Doing the whole thing over again and admitting slip-ups, for the sake of quality management.
How could this mess be repaired at this time? Simple: an open vote on all submissions, without prior screening. The audience is pretty capable of narrowing the field down to a final selection of three to seven, among which the client then has the last say.
This would be the fair and logical thing to do. Damage to your face would be minimal, but the gain would be winning back the trust of your audience again.
Just a free bit of advice.
>I think you should, for the future, consult the community on rules BEFORE opening submissions, to avoid further confusion and grievances.
Good idea, we will consider this procedure next time.
Funny you pointed this specific submission. I think this is the only one that deserves to be the mascot. All others are dull, insipid.
BTW thanks for pointing out his twitter, his work on LibreOffice’s mascot is really great!
All others that are in the end line, cause I submitted this that I think deserves something.
https://twitter.com/n3storm/status/913419377919299586
Really!? This one of my least favorite designs by far. It looks like an uninspired character from a video game developed for children and young teenagers. I could stand seeing it in the box of a game, toy or video card — as I can also see I forgetting about it on the next day. And that’s it.
As an adult that uses LO for everyday work, I see this as an absolutely unfitting mascot design for an office suite.
@Renee
I agree with Marcus that this manga-style cat, looks very childish. I don’t see any connection to LO.
@Nestor
I like the parrot very much!
I didn’t know this artist but i vote for his work, which is great and accurate to the already existent & historical design – original triangles.
The problem is the artist posted lot of artworks of his submitted mascot alongside the post about voting for his design so his followers are very aware of what it looks likes. Since Schwarze_Katze exposed the artist’s name, I’ll give you his posts if you want to see them yourself.
Also, is there anything preventing me from voting again? I took noticed that after finishing the survey the first time around, I could take it again and there doesn’t seem to be anything stopping my votes from counting again.
If I understand it right, the final decision will take The Team. If some proposal is really good, the promotion does not import. At the end we will a good resutl. Kiki or Konqui are the mascots of KDE? They are beautiful!!!
Ah, okay, thanks for the explanation. :)
With “a artist” you will refer to Tyson Tan. An ambitious and cheating chinese
The best design will be the LibreOffice mascot, and Tyson’s one is really beautiful, like some more designs. If you are that concerned about your skills and your design I would recommend you to practice more so you could be as good as Tyson is some day, instead of writing toxic and racist comments in a free software project blog. I think there is no place in this community for people like you.
Voy a decir tres cosas: 1.- Decir que alguien es de cierta nacionalidad no es racismo, en todo caso el racista eres tu por pensar que todos los alemanes son racistas; 2.- No estoy criticando a Tyson Tan por su talento sino por el proselitismo, porque si esta permitida una campaña electoral no ganara el mejor sino el mas popular, y si anda pidiendo votos es porque el mismo Tyson no tendra confianza en si mismo; y 3.- Ten dignidad y no seas arrastrado. Que lo sigas en Twitter no significa que tengas que ser su vasallo.
No estoy seguro de si Haiko habla español, pero tal vez sí. :)
Who is responsible for the pre-selection? They left out many well-made jobs to give way to shitty drawings. What a shame.
Committee from board of directors, marketing, and design. I fully understand your anger; sorry that your preferred mascot wasn’t chosen.
so why did you get out the parrot mascot!? That’s the best of the mascot! It is is stylized and polished such as a mascot should be and it represents a pretty animal too.
My proposal and I are a little sad for not being selected for voting but there are fantastic designs. My congratulations and good luck to all. May the best win!
https://imgur.com/Wwo0j3q
Why not create a separate gallery of every submitted design so that at the least people would know that their respective submission was part of the consideration. I’m surprised that out of a few I submitted those ones which are not as good are in the final voting list. And with so many ideas for just a Hummingbird, I really don’t know why to even vote. Wasnt the contest about Mascot idea and not design. Nevertheless, will look forward to the results. Good luck to all the shortlisted ones.
The best design I see for a mascot (lots of other nice designs for sure) is on the top of this post, left of the sentence “clear distinction to the TDF logo”.
of course I mean right of the sentence “clear distinction to the TDF logo”.
While I understand there’s an unfair advantage for Tyson’s work due to his following, I personally am okay with it since at the end of the day, his design is very professional. His concept was very good. Even though my entry in amongst the 63 for voting, I couldn’t down vote his and some others because I personally think they’re better than mine. Don’t see it from your perspective ppl, try looking from the companies perspective; they’re looking for a company mascot with good concepts. If Tyson’s work wins, it means that he worked hard to gain his following to allow his work to be voted by his followers in the first place. I’m pretty sure if we had the same following, we would do the same as Tyson and promote our own work.
Well that was a bummer; Malcolm didn’t even make the finals.
Guess cartoony gazelles with glasses just aren’t as popular as birds… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
To be honest though, I am rather disappointed by the end selection. I was ready for my submission not to make it to the finals (if it was even in the pool? Dunno) since there were probably much better entries, but most of the finalists aren’t even strictly “Mascots” but logo designs — that’s a completely different creation criteria. Don’t wanna sound biased either, but the quality and originality of some of them is… debatable, to say the least.
Oh well; still made a likeable character.
https://imgur.com/Ppydv7U
Your gacelle is much better than many of the proposals of the survey, as is the bee from one the earlier comments. I agree with you, I don’t know what’s going on with the criteria used to choose them, since way too many look like brand logos, and not exactly mascots (like Tux, Konqi, Heckert, etc do). Mine didn’t even got to be part of the survey even though it didn’t broke any rule as far as I am aware (I know mine wouldn’t have won though, since in the survey are many proposals better than mine), and was much more a “mascot” than some of the **many** hummingbirds and other critters without personality. I know I may sound bitter or something commenting all this; I guess I’m just bummed out of not even having a chance of getting voted on.
PS: btw, here it’s my proposal! https://imgur.com/a/NdqK0
I am sad too Alex, … but knowing that another high quality proposal is out makes me feel better :( Sorry anyway
https://twitter.com/n3storm/status/913419377919299586
I’m not concerned about artists making publicity for their work; let’s be honest, the Internet works this way.
What annoys me is a) the fact that you can vote multiple times
and b) that so many good entries didn’t make it.
Somehow it feels like the chance of a fair choice was taken away due to this two facts. Like 3 or 4 good designs were paired up with so-so designs to make sure only those 3 or 4 designs will make it to the final vote.
Also, I’m confused about most of the designs as well: many aren’t mascots but logos and I’ve spotted some potential copyrighted material as well.
Well, I guess you know what you are doing.
After all, what I say here won’t change anything but I felt like I should voice my concerns, especially about the possibility to vote more than once.
However, good luck to everyone who was chosen!
There are some great designs here, and yes, mine did make it to voting. I am a little frustrated that many of the design qualifications weren’t listed before the voting stage, especially the “cuteness” one. I designed for a more traditional mascot, but would’ve spent my design time differently had I known cuteness was a consideration.
Also, do you know if votes can be filtered by IP address that the vote originated from? At the moment, it looks like I can repeatedly vote for my own design, which isn’t a fair vote.
IP is not stored but the results will be checked whether it’s a valid voting or just repeated click-trough sessions.
And how would you determine that?
My daughter and I voted from the same computer right after one another.
That is not a statistically valid process of cleaning up data.
Got it, thank you.
While I wish there had been a little more elaboration at the onset, I appreciate all your work in running this Heiko, and wish everyone the best with their design.
https://survey.documentfoundation.org/upload/surveys/665628/images/20170728_HOSZEKI_the freedom fighters- hummingbird.png
Sorry, guys, but what is it? We had little discussion at linux.org.ru and decided that it’s:
a. dolphin who rape the ball
b. owl lying on the right side tail to the viewer
c. some sort of crap with intertwined human bodies, reminiscent of an orgy
d. penguin with a dragon crest on the face of the red-haired boy
e. hummingbird with obesity and some kind of ball (propably, little owl)
Undoubtedly, this is the favorite of the race.
Let me jump in here. :-) First of all, thank you very much to everyone who sent in their proposals. We appreciate and value every contribution and know how much time it takes to come up with good designs. We are thankful for so many ideas – many, many more than we actually expected, so thank you very much for that!
For us, it’s the first time to run such a contest on a large scale, but we felt that the community mascot deserves as much community inclusion as possible. There’s a couple of things to keep in mind before the final selection, and of course, everyone’s preference is different. Let me assure you that nobody was excluded on purpose – TDF stands for an open, transparent and meritocratic approach in all we are doing.
As said, we are extremely pleased with so many design proposals shared and didn’t expect the contest to be such an overwhelming success. We will reach out to all applicants via e-mail before our annual LibreOffice Conference starts next week and are keen to find out what the final results will be.
First of all, I am grateful to TDF for what you do and what you stand for.
I claim, and you agree with your post, you don’t know how to organize this kind of contest. You are doing it wrong, design requeriments were not apporiatelly stated, any number of designs per person is not right, pre-selection is wrong and voting method is wrong.
I would like to let you know that just in case the TDF wants to take another direction before nobody cares about the LibreOffice mascot.
Cheers
So what was the reason for the Cuckatoo to be excluded?
Sadly they discarded the only good one, the cockatoo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK0eC8NWAAA_Gyr.jpg
I have seen a lot on the survey and they look like they were done in 2 minutes on paint.
Anonymous opinions from 4chan: http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/62730016
I personally love the cute octopus: http://i.4cdn.org/g/1507045775619.png
Just let us vote on *all* the proposals, with multiple rounds of like/dislike votes, working towards a “showdown” vote, that way your hands will be clean.
I just knew about the contest today, unfortunately. I would have loved to participate with some ideas! Even more because I found most of the selected designs to be surprisingly weak and embarrassing. There are some decent and very “mascotable” options there, but the bad ones so awful that I got concerned. So many poorly drawn birds, forgettable and soulless logos and even some random uninspired animesque characters (seriously!?)… Honestly, I would feel embarrassed to use a software with some of these “mascots”.
Now I just hope the octopus wins (https://survey.documentfoundation.org/upload/surveys/665628/images/20170630_kyledawney_seamusseptopus.png). At least it’s friendly and has some identity.
This octopus looks nice too, by the way: http://i.4cdn.org/g/1507045775619.png
Honestly, the Cuckatoo is by far the best one, why isn’t it available to vote for? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK0eC8NWAAA_Gyr.jpg
I am told by other means (not officially by TDF) that is because the TDF logo appears in the design.
The conquest asked for a mascot which in my proposal is obviously the Cuckatoo, the other elements are to show off how well integrates with TDF style and versality, like using the doc as a perch. I could have designed the bird using a mouse or messing with an abacus, as I said in my proposal email, …
Anyway, the point that “clear distinction to the TDF logo” appears post-conquest, so is pretty unfair to me at least.
Hope I had given some light to you, although real answer should come from TDF.
Is really nice. Also the idea is very good. Yes, it is unfair. Simply wrong / too strict interpretation of your work.
What if they just cropped out the bird from the TDF logo? https://i.imgur.com/QJEeYyb.png
I agree. The cuckatoo is awesome!
the most beautiful of the mascots has been discarded how is it possible?
https://twitter.com/n3storm/status/913419377919299586
This mascot is PERFECT.
I think the cockatoo is pretty amazing too (and I’m rooting for one of the designs that made the cut). The problem in my estimation is that the TDF logo does seem to have been integrated into ND’s design; his two-color rendition clearly shows that his intention was the integration of the mascot with the logo (or it at least appears that way).
It’s a shame because he knocked it out of the park. While, as I said, I’m rooting for one of the designs that made the cut, I wouldn’t have been upset if ND’s design won.
Heiko,
I hope you read sometimes the comments here. I think, it is obvious, that there was a mistake somewhere or bad interpretation. Would be possible to delete / cut the part of the proposal of NÉSTOR DÍAZ ? It is not important where the cockatoo is sitting.
I heard you and just because is fun there we go Docatoo without the TDF version, aka “Hallo!”
https://github.com/n3storm/libreofficemascotconquest/blob/master/hallo.png
Hola, espero que hables español. Tu papagayo es realmente hermoso y espero que ganes, a pesar de todo. A veces soy optimista, así que espero que los “jueces” anulen la votación por ser inválida.
Saludos de Argentina de un checo
Gracias por tus palabras Antonin,
Lo único que podría ocurrir es que anularan la preselección o el concurso, para lo cual hay motivos de sobra puesto que es anormal que las bases de un concurso se establezcan después del periodo de presentación.
There are reasons to invalidate whole contest as is not usual to set contest rules after submission period ended.
Tampoco quiero ganar ni el premio, creo que después de la que se ha montado es imposible que la cacatúa gane. Ya tiene la licencia CC0 con lo que ahí está para el que la quiera usar.
Lo que quiero es lo que es justo y que TDF sea consecuente con su visión de transparencia y comunidad puesto que todavía no han informado a la comunidad porqué este diseño quedó fuera.
Hay reglas que se pueden “dar por hecho” en un concurso, como que el diseño no tenga manchas de café, pero esta regla: “clear distinction to the TDF logo” parece puesta a propósito para dejar fuera la cacatúa y nadie podría adivinar esta condición para el concurso.
I do not want to win or the prize anymore, after what has happened is impossible the cuckatoo will ever win. It is CC0 already so anybody can use it.
What I want is what is just and TDF should be consequent with their vision of transparency and community as they haven’t explained to the community why this design is out.
There are some contest rules that can be implied, like do not submit your design with coffee stains. But this rule “clear distinction to the TDF logo” looks like something made up just to leave the bird out of voting and is something nobody could ever guess as a pre-condition.
Agree.
Your cockatoo is nice, but you see that for LO it is not as good as the orange ball.
https://imgur.com/a/md9tU
@Nestor Diaz
I understand your frustration with the contest, as my submission seems very unlikely to be chosen after the rules were elaborated. That said, there’s no need to complain multiple times per day when the people at Libre office haven’t even responded to your statements yet.
Thanks for your understanding Chase.
I am not complaining in all messages, I am answering and clarifying some things to some people that express their concerns about my submission being ruled out.
I think replying is what people usually do when mentioned themselves or some of their work. Of course I may have a biased idea about what dialog and communication is.
I’m sincere, I’ve seen so many ugly logos still present in the poll (very very ugly mascots), that is absurd the parrot mascot has been disapproved. (my opinion is that some issue affects the poll so to allow a single user can vote more than one time altering the outcome od the vote. Or some lobbies operates as a group of people interested on favouring one solution so to damage the other proposals.
Hello! Most friends asked me why my proposal didn’t appear in the survey.
So I asked if they saw this: “clear distinction to the TDF logo”
It came as a complete surprise. Everyone said “We don’t believe it! We totally disagree with this!! What they (TDF) see as problem, we see as amazing soluction!! This could be used without any information about TDF or LibreOffice name and even then it would be recognized as the LibreOffice mascot.” They referred to it…https://www.flickr.com/photos/elias_ilustracao_design/37499535612/in/datetaken-public/ and https://www.flickr.com/photos/elias_ilustracao_design/36820984274/in/datetaken-public/
I do not want to complain. It is not even my intention. But I had no choice, they wanted me to ask you about it.
What do you think about that?
Your proposal is an outstanding example for professional work, and I will present it as that next week at the LibreOffice conference. Unfortunately it wasn’t accepted because of being too close to the TDF symbol. I’m sorry that this precondition wasn’t clear from the beginning.
PS: Would be great to have you in the group of open source designers at http://opensourcedesign.net/
Hi Heiko! I really understand. As I said in my proposal, when I saw the logo as his eyes I thought this could be the right way. I forgot the regulation. Will you present it at the LibreOffice Conference? Wow! Wow! Oh, that’s great! I’m glad to read that. I really appreciate that. Would be an honor to be part of the group of open source designers. Thanks!
Hi Heiko and Elias and everybody else,
See doc mascot scratching head here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/elias_ilustracao_design/37272541820/in/album-72157686985739440/
And look here:
https://www.google.es/search?q=mickey+mouse+scratch+head&client=firefox-b&dcr=0&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiawZjBrtzWAhWCWBoKHV5YA5sQsAQIJw&biw=1839&bih=973
You can even get those hands in packs:
http://www.ohmyfiesta.com/2012/01/molde-del-guante-de-mickey-fiestas.html
Just remove glove lines and you can there you have.
Also, sorry Elias, you can see the shoes are not the same quality as hands, why?
I have seen your move Heiko. I’m over with this.
Cheers
Yours will be in the presentation too. But this info won’t make you happy, I guess. Read all your messages on the various channels but there is no question that I can answer. Sorry.
Hi Nestor, how you doing?
I feel you are very frustrated with the result of the proposals selection. You’re not alone. That makes two of us. I just don’t understand where you want to go with this? Yeah! I love Walt Disney and It is my best reference for drawing cartoon. I don’t need use this images, I know to draw. I just use it as reference. Have you ever heard about the use of references in illustration? I hope so.
Please check my portfolio
https://www.flickr.com/photos/elias_ilustracao_design/albums and
https://www.facebook.com/pg/eliassilveirailustrador/photos/?ref=page_internal and
https://www.facebook.com/pg/eliassilveirailustrador/videos/?ref=page_internal and
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1006519326061689&set=pb.100001108936121.-2207520000.1507308736.&type=3&theater
Here there my proposal in SVG file, It’s all yours to do whatever you want with it. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rikybudvfwkbt9y/AABk99xjKM3VCpntxPjrAYMXa?dl=0
Cheers
The kerfuffle about mascots persuaded me to look at Libreoffice, since I was a longtime Apache Openoffice user and it isn’t getting updated anymore. I guess this contest is doing what a mascot should do: draw people in. I hope the triangular yiff bait or the green spurdo wins!
As a LO user, I do not see the need for a mascot, but PLEASE, none of the comic characters. This is an office suite for doing real work not a game for little children.
I did the survey and gave a few thumbs up so as not to vote everything down, but there were none that I really liked (apologies to those who worked hard to produce them).
I think it’s silly that TDF is paying Heiko to do this instead of focus on modernizing the GUI. Why dance around the big problem? It only gets bigger that way. Meanwhile literally no one cares about a mascot. Does Inkscape have one? Does Debian? Does VLC? What happens to the Libreoffice Icon now? Brand recognition gets diluted on an already obscure software. You guys are getting too comfortable at TDF now that Collabora is leading development. I’ll start donating again when I see real progress on the UI.
I dont see any problem with the GUI. Could you explaneme it to me shortly?
The decision about having a mascot has been made, people have participated in the survey, and the survey is now closed. It’s a little late to cry about it.
I’ve read these stories in multiple medias in different countries so no matter what one has to say about the use of a mascot, this survey gave LibreOffice lots of positive publicity. As long as a mascot never-ever become the Clippy/Office assistant as in Microsoft Office (what a horror story!), then this is a fun thing! Would love to see the mascot in supertuxcart.
Agreed that the LibreOffice user interface could need a refreshing, but it’s not relevant. It’s possible to do multiple things at once, one thing does not exclude the other. And when you do refresh the GUI, please don’t copy Microsoft as their GUI is actually ugly and have lots of bad usability. It’s just what people have became used to so they no longer see what’s wrong with it. Please do something unique and better then them!
“And when you do refresh the GUI, please don’t copy Microsoft as their GUI is actually ugly and have lots of bad usability. It’s just what people have became used to so they no longer see what’s wrong with it. Please do something unique and better then them!”
So true! MS Office GUI has many problems.
I just can’t stand MS Office “ribbons”, and I would be very disappointed if LO headed this way. What a terrible idea! It takes a lot of screen space for less functions (that it fails hard to sort by context) and it’s just not as customizable as the traditional toolbars, that I can easily add/remove tools, resize and replace the way I want. The “File” menu also became a mess in the more recent MS Office versions as well. Oh, and I really dislike the way MS Word handles “styles”.
Well, the list could go on and on, but that’s not the place for that :)
Many thanks for all comments. Especially to DONG whose answer is what we intend to achieve. But all others are read carefully as well and taken into the overall picture. We get the critical opinions like any other participation in the project. You care about your office suite, and that’s really great.
May I ask when we’ll find out which designs made it to the final selection?
Thank you,
Chase
well, public vote is over, When will you publish the list of Shortlisted entries?
When will the winner(s) be announced?
It’s been a few weeks since the end of the voting – any word on the shortlisted entries? I believe I’m asking on behalf of at least a few of us who participated.
Thanks,
Chase
Understand that things can take time, but please give us a timeschedule. Will we know the winners this month or next month? Please give us some idea, we’re eager to know what our next mascot will be! :D
Thanks!
When will we have news on who is the selected mascot? It’s been quite some time and very much past the original estimated deadline.
Sorry for the delay. There are several stakeholders, and we are still discussing how to deal with the concerns brought up here. There are some options on the table and hopefully we go ahead next week.
Hello. Just following up to see if there is any news on the competition results.
Sorry for keeping you on the tenterhooks. Here we go ahead: https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/11/13/mascot-iteration/